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We love our tactical assault backpacks. They are rugged, tough and ready to go to war. But sometimes you may want the same great rugged toughness but without all of the tactical bling. That is why we created the Subrosa Urban Assault Pack. Actually, this is why we created the entire Stealth Operator Bag (SOB) line up. You get the same great features, build quality, and design you would expect from 3V Gear, but in a nondescript, “grey man” backpack.
The Subrosa Urban Assault backpack is the perfect addition to your bag collection. It is discreet styling, covert carry, and subdued tactical look make this full-featured backpack ideal for the user who wants a rugged backpack but also wants to blend in and not stand out in the crowd. Whether you work in security, are in the military, or just want an urban style laptop backpack, the Subrosa Urban Assault Pack is the perfect covert backpack.
The Subrosa comes with loads of organization, padded laptop sleeve, which will hold most 15” laptops, a tablet pocket that will hold most tablets up to 10”, a full clamshell design allowing you to easily load and access all of your gear, and molded EVA foam back allows air to flow across your back when wearing the backpack.
Looking for something more tactical? Check out our best-selling Velox II Tactical Assault Pack.
• All zippers are threaded with ergonomic 3V Gear zipper pulls
• The main pockets feature double zippers for convenient access
• Loads of pockets and sleeves for organization
Padded Laptop Sleeve
PADDED LAPTOP SLEEVE
• Front and rear padding keep your laptop or tablet safe
• Elastic and velcro strap keep your laptop from moving inside your backpack
• Doubles as a water/hydration reservoir sleeve
Tons of Space
TONS OF SPACE
• Two large pockets give you plenty of room to haul your gear
• A small front pocket features a key lanyard and is perfect for small items, such as your wallet, phone, notebooks, etc.
• Features additional hydration compatible pocket behind EVA back panel
EVA Back Panel
EVA MOLDED BACK PANEL
A molded EVA back panel features the 3V Gear logo and slogan, Veni-Vidi-Vidi "I came, I saw, I conquered." The EVA mold has ridges that allow airflow while you are wearing the backpack. No one wants a sweaty back.
Convenient Stash Pocket
CONVENIENT STASH POCKET
The Subrosa features a quick stash pocket on the front of the backpack. It is perfect for small items that you want to quickly access, such as your phone, wallet, keys, notebook, etc. This pocket includes a keychain lanyard.
Internal hydration compartment and hose access port allows you to use a hydration reservoir (not included) with the Subrosa.
The Subrosa features a full clamshell design in the main pocket and allows you to open the pack completely flat. This makes it great for packing clothing for travel.
Back Panel Pocket
BACK PANEL POCKET
The EVA molded back panel has a convenient pocket behind it which is perfect for your hydration reservoir or laptop/tablet. A velcro closure at the top gives you easy access to the pockets contents without unzipping the backpack.
ADDITIONAL FEATURES AND BENEFITS
The Subrosa features a reinforced padded grab handle, double stitching, large zippers, and nylon reinforced webbing throughout. Plastic D-rings make it easy to add additional accessories and quickly hook gear to your pack.
As a content creator myself, I put a lot of effort into the whole video, not just the first 5 minutes of it, so yes, I watched the whole thing, even though I'm only interested in a cheap small bag to simply pull out of my Peak Design Travel Backpack when entering the plane, and have my laptop, headphones and a pouch with dongles, charger, and cables, so I can put the PD on the top compartment. But I'm leaning more towards a packable backpack and a laptop sleeve, since I already have pouches for everything else, and weight is a premium here.
Cheap ripoff of an excellent product made by an excellent company. The pricing on Goruck’s is high, but that’s the cost of doing business the right way. This is the total opposite in every conceivable way.
RecycledFireFighter “The Chief” backpack. Worth every penny. Love it, use it every single day for 2 years straight. Glad I bought it. I would get GoRuck GR2 but not for $500...that’s just f’n RIDICULOUS, and those that support the purchase at that price are giving them power to continue ripping off all their customers. Just like Apple!!!
Have the Subrosa and love it (I also have their original Outlaw Sling Pack). I did have an issue with a zipper after about 6 months, but I filled out a warranty claim (which was super easy) and they sent me a new bag. Great customer service, highly recommend 3V Gear.
I totally agree with you on how GoRuck is straddling this army/ruck/ computer programmer audience. They HEAVILY market their Ruck events, but I bet you 98% of the people who buy their bags (like me) have 0 desire to do a Ruck ( I do work out, just not a Rucking person) I love my GR1 26L and only purchased it because I had a 20% off coupon. They just raised the price to $400.00 from $295.00. And while I believe the bag has great build and a company behind it, there is so much more potential in the bag, if they made it a bit more for the people who buy them, and not the people who they Market to their Rucking events to.
I just finished trying out the G-Ro Backpack XV and this video reminds me of it. I really wanted to love that bag. It's organization was AWESOME! It's ability to convert from 15L to 32L with two zippers was a great feature, but it just felt cheap! The material was thin and cheesy. The straps felt underwhelming and the zippers were just too small for the full 32L, packed out weight that I needed it to stand up to. Lastly the handles... the handles were just not done right. They will start to fray and come apart with a few uses, in my opinion. I'm hoping you'll review that bag but I'm sure if you do, you'll come to the same conclusions. Thanks again for the great videos!
Hey I have a project for you, we all want our bags to last forever and be able to give them to our kids right....well that's not going to happen because it seems like every damn company is using some sort of Polyurethane (water resistant finish) that brakes down and becomes sticky or the laminate starts to peel off and looks horrible, I can't find a company that does not use this crap..thoughts???
Hey Chase! I FREAKIN' LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!! Awesome jobs, dude!! I (probably like many here) kinda have a problem as I have WAY too many bags myself. A few of them I've purchased due to your videos. I'm currently looking at a Timbuk2 Spire roll top. Any thoughts on it?? If I get one to you, would you do one of your reviews for it?? Keep up the great work, man!! Truly, your vids are a joy to watch.
I think if you are looking for a bag in this price range, it is best to go with as simple a bag as possible, like a basic tote or the classic Jansport-style backpack. Like Chase says in this review, the company is trying to maximize what they can deliver at this price - so if the bag is basic, then all the budget is put in the limited features of a simple bag = more quality in what's there.
Also, thanks Chase for branching out to bags at different price points/exclusivity while keeping your strong stance on the ethos of goods production and how consumer choice matters. I like it!
i always really wanted to be a GR1 or GR2 guy but they miss the boat on oraganization for quick access and also when you take your clothing out of them they just are not that great at EDC unless you get the small GR1 that is not big enough to carry all your stuff for an extended trip. its not about the $$ its the bag. and still i want to buy one so bad, just know it would always be a compomise in the function. sticking with my faggy looking synapse. I don’t think this bag could last one rucking event or a years worth of travel so it’s not really as much a value as it is a constant worry as to when it’s going to quit
Hey Chase! Thanks for the great video. I've noticed that you look at each product not only from a consumer perspective but also from a designers perspective and really get into their shoes to uncover the design decisions behind each product. It's awesome and I'm glad I found your channel.
By the way dude, could you please review the Osprey Radial backpack. It's supposed to be the king of commuter packs and I think a whole lot of us would appreciate your thoughts. Cheers, Abs.
I think the 1600d cordura has warped your mind, Jansport backpacks are 600d and last forever even with kids abusing them for jr high, high, and college years.
That said, I'm not down with the whole quasi-tactical style molle mad style but I could see one of those same high school kids covering it with his favorite band you've never heard of cause they aren't mainstream sellouts patches.
I don't think Cordura makes anything in 1680d. There's 1600d ballistic nylon (which basically means nothing since "ballistic nylon" isn't really an industry term) and 1000D Cordura.
Also, as a heads up, you can't compare denier between materials. 1000D Ballistic Nylon will have completely different strengths and features to 1000D Polyester. Denier is just a unit of weight per run of fabric; higher denier means that the fibers, generally speaking, are bulkier, and thus (assumed) more durable. We can compare, say, 500D Kodra to 750D Kodra, but we couldn't compare either of them to 60d ripstop nylon using just the denier as a guideline. Denier is just used by bag manufacturers because it's an easy way to give their material a single number. 1680d ballistic nylon is, generally speaking, pretty low quality, but people see it and think "woah, bigger number must be better!"
I wouldn't carry it, I hate cheap shit, I also don't buy anything without YKK zippers...but I buy it for my kids for school LOL, no damn way I would buy my kids a KR1....you know what I'm sayin brah? Why the increase in price Goruck? don't let Goruck fool you all, they just want more money (greed), look at Kifaru, Mystery Ranch, PDW and TAD gear for example, their products are built as well if not better and they are $150-$200 cheaper, all your buying now is the Goruck name and its not that Tacti-cool anymore....
The evergoods cpl doesn’t get nearly the love it should. The comfort with a laptop in the laptop compartment blows the gr1 out of the water, especially if you have to lean over while wearing it (like cycling).
This is the case when you get a decent quality for 45$. This is the case when you see how people are spoilt by having 400$ bags or backpack and are biased being towards "cheap" goods that still have their pros For students, for university graduates, for people who don't earn a lot this could the best option.
Real Murican buy quality products, with huge, huge gross profit margins. The purpose of an Murican consumer is to make the owner as rich as possible. In WWII, the US beat Germany and Japan because we didn't cut corner and built the best possible product, right? Isn't this the Murican way? We make the best product, no compromises.
I'm carrying that EXACT 3v Gear Subrosa Pack RIGHT NOW and your concern about the strap just totally falling off is warranted. That's exactly what mine's doing. It's got about 1/3 of the way across the strap to go before it's completely fallen off. Good design and decently made for $45 but it just doesn't hold up long term. I've had it for about 5 months now.
Have you tried to get it repaired or replaced? I saw tag in the video said lifetime warranty. I'm pretty sure the strap coming off would be considered a manufacturing defect. It would be interesting to see how they deal with warranties. If they send a replacement free and fast I would say $45 would be pretty good for a bag with a lifetime warranty and a good company behind it.
That's right, real Muricans drive up to Walmart alone in their Ford F550s buy Goruck bags and demand that they provide large plastic bag to carry them out to their truck because they don't want to get them dirty.
I have the BlackHawk 3 Day Assault pack. It is "Bomb Proof" ....hella durable......however the 3V should be a good affordable pack......I would rock it....the more flexable packs are great for semi-light travel...
you should really try reviewing the Apex dayton, havent seen anyone do it, it sold out in the main store ,though there is a website called off the hook that still sells it, please get the bluish color!!
I've had a similar 3V bag -- what you say around 5:20, where the thin pull could come through the gap in the "zipper thing" was true for me. Pliers, 2 seconds, fixed. Another thing with the zipper... just tugging on the front pocket, the zipper did "split" in the middle a bit, opening the pocket. I unzipped and re-zipped it, and voila, it was fine, can't tell there might ever be a problem. But it is a bummer when the zippers can get tugged apart without massive force. The straps and all materials seem to be holding up spectacularly well after about (just under) a year. For the price... at about 1/10th the price of a GR2.... this bag is worth the price all day long. This has been my commute/work bag. (Or the sling version has been!) All day it was worth the price. The 'plain' look of this bag is intentional -- their first bags were much more military/tactical looking; this is meant to be a but under the radar. Or sub-rosa, maybe. (By the way, expunge the phrase "intelligent design" or "intelligently designed" from your speech, at least in the usage you had here. It puts you on a team that has nothing to do with what you're talking about. Or not. Just a random stranger's advice!)
😎 I have a €26, 20ltr, weather-resistant, full Molle Mil-Tec bag. I thought it would fall to pieces after a summer... I'm an on-the-go photographer - bikes, jeeps, hikes - pack the bag out to the max, and 2 years in, it just won't die... Love it! One of my best buys of the decade 😳🤩
That feeling when you make it to the end of the video and Chase says you're his favorite kind of person. Hype!
But in all seriousness this bag seems like it'd be perfect for a student, especially a middle school or high school kid. Understated, sturdy, gets the job done, its a good "starter bag" for getting into the idea of getting great things instead of more things. This bag might not last a lifetime like a Goruck but I think it'd get you to start asking yourself the right questions about bags LIKE Goruck - a lifelong companion.
As far as comparisons go I'd like to throw in my opinion and say this bag is very similar to the Heimplanet Monolith 22L but not quite as well made (cos Heimplanet is amazing.)
Overall looks like a great mid-tier bag for the folks that love Goruck and bags like it but not necessarily the price tag that comes with it. Great job Chase!
I saw the Subrosa a couple of years ago and my jaw dropped! The side MOLLE I had longed for in a Goruck while keeping it's "greyman" aesthetic at a far lower price point was too good to be true. . . and I think it is as you've noted here. I just can't spend money on something that will likely break because of low-end materials.
They've got a few that might be what you're looking for, like the Urban Assault, the Street Zen, the Stadt, Crest Mountain (side molle), or the Slick. The Front side molle) in black maybe too? It's less military than a the goruck IMO.
To funny I just bought this bag a week ago. Because of this channel I have purchased a TomBihn A45, Synapse 25, Evergoods CPL 24, YNOT fold up backpack, and many other small accessories. Bag companies listen up you should be giving this guy 5% of every bag sold......lol... Cheers from Northern Canada.
Collin Hayle too funny. I am debating selling it on ebay but will lose about $50 because of ebay fees. I think I feel guilty having so many bags . I love the look of the Evergoods CPL24 but I just wish it was 28-30 Litres and I would love it more. The Synapse 25 can carry so much more it seems yet its technically only 2 litres more. My only complaint of the Synapse 25 is when its packed to much its doesn't feel good on the back and it doesn't look as good in my opinion. Decisions decisions.
The GORUCK GR1 is now $395.00, everything went up. The GR2 is now $495.00. They're great bags, I bought mine just before the price increase across the board. Quality, and can fit a ridiculous amount of items for a 26 L bag.
+Praxis-Cat, I like to be able to lock my bag anywhere I am. I should be able to leave my backpack in a hotel room and not have the maid be able to go through it, that shouldn't even be an issue at that price point, I think I complained about that so much everywhere they made a point of making their new bag lockable and pointing that out several times in the promo video. If you sign up for eBags rewards you can get 20% to 30% off daily at a minimum, plus they give you money back in credits when you purchase from them. You have to really try to pay full price with eBags. I consider clamshell top opening since you put the bag on it's back to access your gear.
I would venture most people, including myself, don't know the "eBags game", and that they sell most of their bags for their retail price, which is 2x what most people buy EDC backpacks for.
I don't know what you mean by a traditional camera backpack's top opening design -- almost every camera bag I've owned is clamshell or front opening. A lot of people really like the aesthetic of their bags, which I think is subjective, and everyone I know who has the EDB loves the side open. I personally think that the EDB is not a great backpack for a number of reasons, but not really the ones you've listed. You can lock the backpack well enough by running the zipper pulls through each other, but I rarely feel a need to lock my backpack unless I'm traveling somewhere risky.
I have the PRVKE; I think it's alright. I'll probably sell it when I get the Peak Design Travel Line in the mail, since that'll mostly replace my 1 bag travel needs.
You are worried that the pack will start to look dumpy? What are American men turning into? MetroTactical? I'm afraid my tactical pack is starting to look "dumpy". How can I conduct CQC with a dumpy pack?
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